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the archives and and we'll keep you posted on what's coming up as well I'm Rick Green America's

Constitution coach and a former Texas legislator usually here with David and Tim Barton but we've got

an interview that's going to take I think most of the program because there's so much to catch up

on with what's been going on in the state of California always good to have Pastor Mike McClure with us

you know Californians leading the way I'm telling you they have done at a phenomenal job these

pastors that had to stand up to all kinds of tyranny out in California it makes you really

cement what you believe and then find out if you're willing to stand for it well this pastor's

one that absolutely did face millions of dollars and finds still fighting the government and now we

find out they were actually tracking the folks in his church Mike always good to have you on the

program brother thanks for giving us some time today thank you so much Rick for having me the

pleasure to be on well man you said you said a high bar in a good way for a lot of pastors across

the country I think you know you were faced with all kinds of threats you know financial they you

know you're going to kill everybody I mean just they really brought the hammer down on you and

and you stood humbly but but firm and we enjoyed watching and supporting and you know just shouting

from the rooftops this is this is we need more of this more of this and other pastors I think a

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