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Now here's your host, Mr. Thrill Ride himself, Eric Mataxis.

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Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show. Thrill Ride himself, Eric Mattaxas. Hey there, folks, welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show.

Guess what? Well, you already knew this. I'm a fan of biography. I have written three

biographies myself. And because I don't have time to write more biographies, I've written a number

of books of several biographies. I wrote a book called Seven Men with Seven Short biographies. I've written a number of books of several biographies. I wrote a

book called Seven Men with Seven Short Photographies of Heroes. I wrote a book called Seven Women and another

book called Seven More Men. In my book, Seven Women, I had to put in a hero named Corey Ten Boom. Now, with a weird name like Corey Ten Boom,

you know she's Dutch, but that's all you know if you don't know who she is. But what happens

when I write books like seven men and seven women and seven more men, invariably people

say to me, where can I get more information?

Is there a good biography on Hannah Moore?

And I say, yes, here's convictions by Karen Swallow-Pryor.

Is there a better biography on Bonhoeffer?

And I go, yes, my book on Bonhofer.

But now when people say to me, can you think of a biography of Corey Ten Boom? I don't

have to say, the hiding place. I can say, read the book, victorious by Stan Guthrie, who is my guest

right now. Stan, welcome to the program. Thank you, Eric. It's always great to be with you.

What led you to write a full-blown, but first of all, I should say that we know each other from

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