Welcome to the Eric Matexas Show. Please keep your arms and legs inside the car at all times.

This is your final warning. Now here's your host, Mr. Thrill Ride himself, Eric Matexas.

Hey there folks, welcome to the Eric Matexas Show. Guess what? Uh, you, well, you already knew this.

I'm a fan of biography. I have written three biographies myself. And because I don't have time to

write more biographies, I've written a number of books of several biographies. I wrote a book

called Seven Men with Seven Short Aographies of Heroes. I wrote a book called Seven Women

and another book called Seven More Men. In my book Seven Women, I had to put in a hero named

Cory Ten Boom. Now with a weird name like Cory Ten Boom, you know she's Dutch, but that's all you

know if you don't know who she is. But what happens when I write books like Seven Men and Seven

Women and Seven More Men invariably people say to me, where can I get more information? Is

there a good biography on Hannah Moore? And I say, yes, here's convictions by Karen Swallow

prior. Is there a better biography on Bonhoeffer? And I go, yes, my book on Bonhoeffer. But now

when people say to me, can you think of a biography of Cory Ten Boom? I didn't have to say the hiding

place. I can say, read the book Victorious by Stan Guthrie, who is my guest right now. Stan,

welcome to the program. Thank you Eric. It's always great to be with you. What led you to write a

full blown? But first of all, I should say that we know each other from from break point and the

Colson Center. You've been an editor at large for Christianity today. You've written many other

books. So you've been on this program before. But what led you to take on what I consider a daunting

task of writing a biography of a very important person's life? That is a very good question, Eric. And

unlike you, this was my first biography. And it was about a modern Protestant saint. So I

approached it with a fear and trepidation because I would say Cory has a bigger following now than

she even had in her life. I'm constantly getting people who are sharing quotes from her or just

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