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The President’s Inbox

Staffing a New Administration, With Stephen Hadley (Transition 2025, Episode 1)

The President’s Inbox

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News:politics, News

4.5698 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Hadley, a principal of Rice, Hadley, Gates & Manuel LLC and former national security advisor to President George W. Bush, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss the presidential transition process and the challenges that all incoming presidents face in staffing up their administration. This episode is the first in a special TPI series on the U.S. 2025 presidential transition and is supported by the Carnegie Corporation of New York.   Mentioned on the Episode   Stephen Hadley, Hand-Off: The Foreign Policy George W. Bush Passed to Barack Obama    For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/tpi/staffing-new-administration-stephen-hadley-transition-2025-episode-1

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the President's Inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay, the Mary and David Boyes Distinguished Senior Fellow in U.S.

0:09.0

Foreign Policy at the Council on Foreign Relations. This is the first episode in a special

0:14.8

presidential transition series on the President's Inbox. From now until inauguration day, I will be sitting down with experts

0:22.7

to unpack who will staff the next presidential administration in how it will likely approach

0:28.3

the many foreign policy challenges it will face. This week's topic is staffing a new administration.

0:46.3

With me to discuss the presidential transition process is Stephen Hadley. Steve is a principal of Rice Hadley-Gates-Emmanuel LLC, an international strategic consulting firm.

0:53.3

From 2005 to 2009, Steve served as national security

0:58.5

advisor to President George W. Bush. During President Bush's first term, he served as deputy

1:04.6

national security advisor. Steve was also a senior foreign policy advisor to the George

1:10.3

W. Bush campaign in 2000,

1:12.8

and he later helped lead the transition process on national security matters after the election.

1:19.4

Steve was Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy from 1989 to 1993,

1:26.2

and he served on the staff of the National Security Council during both the Bush Senior and General Ford administrations.

1:32.9

Steve is the editor of the 2003 book Handoff, the Foreign Policy George W. Bush passed to Barack Obama,

1:41.4

which provides and analyzes the foreign policy briefing papers that

1:45.7

his National Security Council team prepared for the Obama transition team. Steve, thank you for

1:52.2

joining me on the president's inbox. Delighted to be here. We are talking a few days before

1:59.5

election day, Steve, so we don't know who the next president will be.

2:04.0

But I'd like to talk about the challenges that any new president faces in staffing up in administration.

2:11.2

You have seen it on both ends, both going in to an administration, as well as handing the baton over to the next presidential team.

2:21.9

So perhaps we can sort of start with your laying out the nature of the challenge any new president

2:28.1

faces when they move into the White House.

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