Spycraft and Soulcraft on the Front Lines of History: A Conversation with Former CIA Chief of Counterintelligence James Olson
Thinking in Public with Albert Mohler
The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 28 April 2021
⏱️ 59 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is thinking in public, a program dedicated to intelligent conversation about |
| 0:10.2 | front-line theological and cultural issues with the people who are shaping them. |
| 0:14.4 | I'm Albert Moly your host and president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. |
| 0:20.1 | For more than three decades, James M. Olson served with the Central Intelligence Agency. |
| 0:25.0 | For some of those years, he served the nation as the Director of Counterintelligence. |
| 0:30.0 | He served in the Directorate of Operations and also served previously for decades in field service. |
| 0:36.0 | He and his wife both agents for the Central Intelligence Agency. |
| 0:40.0 | For over 20 years now, he's been a professor of the practice in the Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M University. |
| 0:47.0 | Professor Olson has authored two books, the first fair play, the moral dilemmas of spying, and the second most recently to catch a spy the art of counterintelligence. |
| 0:57.0 | The entire field of espionage spycraft and counterintelligence raises a host of Christian worldview issues that make this conversation one you will not want to miss. |
| 1:07.0 | Again, I'm looking forward to this conversation with Professor James M Olson and soon you'll understand why. |
| 1:13.3 | Professor Olson welcome to thinking in public. |
| 1:15.6 | Well thank you very much it's a pleasure to be here. |
| 1:18.4 | I have been looking forward to this conversation for some time because in my view as a theologian, |
| 1:27.8 | the questions related to warfare in general and then to espionage or to spycraft, |
| 1:34.4 | raise some of the deepest questions of Christian moral understanding. |
| 1:38.8 | And I have turned to your first book, Fair Play, |
| 1:42.4 | the moral dilemmas of spying for years now and have cited it in writing. |
| 1:47.3 | And then I did so fairly recently on the briefing and one of your former students actually said well you should |
| 1:54.5 | talk to Professor Olson himself and so that opened the door for this conversation and then in light of your second book that came out just a matter of about a year ago to catch a spy the art of counterintelligence. |
| 2:07.2 | Professor, you have lived one of the most interesting lives that I could imagine. |
| 2:14.3 | Yes, it has been an interesting life and a very fulfilling one Dr. |
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