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The Politics Guys

Spy Schools: How Intelligence Services Have Infiltrated Higher Education

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5772 Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2017

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Mike talks with Daniel Golden, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Daniel Golden, author of Spy Schools: How the CIA, FBI, and Foreign Intelligence Secretly Exploit America's Universities (http://amzn.to/2n34ACy) They discuss how widespread spying is (a lot more widespread than Mike thought, that's for sure), if schools that are recruiting more international students are more vulnerable, how Trump administration immigration policies are likely to affect spying in colleges and universities, and lots more. Dan Golden on Twitter | https://twitter.com/DanLGoldenSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ending soon. Welcome to the politics, guys.

0:46.9

I'm Michael Baranowski, a political scientist at Northern Kentucky University.

0:54.8

My guest today is journalist and author Daniel Golden.

0:58.1

Mr. Golden is a senior editor at ProPublica.

1:01.2

He's also worked at Bloomberg News, where a series he edited won a Pulitzer Prize in 2015,

1:07.2

as well as at the Wall Street Journal and the Boston Globe.

1:10.7

He's also the author of The Price of Admission,

1:13.4

How America's Ruling Class Bies Its Way Into Elite Colleges and Who Gets Left Outside the Gates?

1:18.8

And most recently, Spy Schools, How the CIA, FBI, and Foreign Intelligence

1:24.2

secretly exploit America's universities.

1:27.4

Daniel Golden, welcome to the show.

1:29.3

Thanks. Glad to be with you.

1:30.9

You know, to start with, can you talk about how you first learned about spying in higher

1:35.6

education and what led you to write a book about it?

1:39.2

Well, I've all been, I've covered higher education a long time, and I've always been

1:43.4

interested in spying on college campuses, probably from reading, you know, John LaCarray when I was growing up and all about the Cambridge Five in England and so on.

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