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Spy-fall: Trump imperils intelligence pact

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The Economist

News & Politics, News

4.44.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

America’s international intelligence-sharing relationships have been decades in the making and rely not on a treaty but trust. Could Donald Trump damage the powerful spy alliance? Why we may soon be buying cutting-edge medicines developed in China (11:00). And introducing a new regular feature, “What to watch this weekend” (17:39). 


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0:00.0

At BP, we've reset our strategy to grow value for shareholders, growing upstream, focusing downstream, playing to our strengths, and disciplined investment in the transition.

0:14.1

This is a reset BP. Find out more at BP.com forward slash reset. Transition activities such as EV charging, bioenergy and renewables are a much smaller but key part of our business.

0:32.6

The Economist.

0:46.4

Hello and welcome to the intelligence from The Economist.

0:48.1

I'm your host, Rosie Bloor.

0:52.6

Every weekday, we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.

1:02.6

In the past decade, China has made great strides in AI and scientific innovation.

1:06.8

Now its prowess is becoming evident in the field of biotech.

1:11.5

Chinese firms are coming up with more and more medicines that will soon be coming to market.

1:18.2

And you know those evenings when you're flicking through the reams of possible films and TV shows and wondering why you can't find anything that's worth watching?

1:21.7

Well, our cultural team may just have the answer for you.

1:48.2

Thank you. But first... Donald Trump has long had a tricky relationship with America's intelligence services. In his first term, he repeatedly contradicted his own spooks, including over accusations

1:53.1

that Russia had interfered in the 2016 election.

1:56.0

Others, they said they think it's Russia.

1:58.8

I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia. I have President Putin.

2:01.8

He just said it's not Russia.

2:03.8

I will say this.

2:04.8

I don't see any reason why it would be.

2:07.0

This term is already different.

2:09.0

He's taking a wrecking ball to the spy agencies.

2:12.4

I got to know a lot about that world that we had some corrupt agents and those people are

2:16.3

gone or they will be gone

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