Welcome to part two of our conversation with Chris Sutton. Is it always a full-proof method? Is there always a way where the living and their request and their intent will win out over the spirit on the other side when they go through something like this? Or does the spirit have the right to say, no, I know you want peace,

I know you want me out, but I don't want out and I don't want peace.

So you can try and eradicate me all you want with all the salt and all the rituals and all

the things you are going to try and do.

Screw you, I'm staying.

I mean, does it depend on the type of spirit you're dealing with that has a power like

that?

Or does that exist?

Does the living ultimately have the upper hand no matter what?

I think that that power does exist.

I have seen it happen where they'll leave when you're that when I'm there.

And then they'll come back when you're growing.

That's why I always teach people how to do this stuff.

I don't just do it.

Sure.

Teach them how to do it and hopefully.

But I think, I mean, I've certainly read cases and seen cases and talked to a lot of people

where that's happened.

Sometimes you got to get a team of things. Sometimes you've got to do some ceiling work on the outside. But, you know, are there things more powerful me? You better believe it. I felt them. I haven't had to go against them, but I felt them. I know they're there. And there are some powerful things in nature, and there's powerful things in in spirit. And I don't believe in demons per se.

I believe the words, one, is over to use two.

It transfers too much power.

Yeah.

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