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Hi and welcome back to for an office. I'm Michael Weiss, Director of Special

Investigations at FreeRussia Foundation. And senior correspondent Yahu News.

This week I'm joined by my friend, Colder Walton.

He is the author of one of the best books on espionage I have read in recent years.

That's saying quite a lot because I've read almost all of them having to do my own book on Russian espionage.

It's called Spies. Colder, what's the subtitle before I screw that up?

I'm never good on subtitles. I'm always good on titles.

The subtitle is the epic intelligence rule between East and West.

There you go. Colder is a, you're a fellow at the Belfer Center at Harvard University.

That's right. Yeah. I'm the director of research at the Intel project here at the Kennedy School.

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