Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on Today Show. I have a very special guest. His name is Michael Holtzman.

He published a book in October 2021, which I read. Very fascinating book.

The title of the book is Spies and Traders. Kim Filby, James Angleton, and the friendship and betrayal that would shape MI6, the CIA and the Cold War.

And Michael Holtzman, last name is spelled H-O-L-S-Z.

H-O-L-Z, M-A-N.

He's written many other books.

Titles are Lucas's, Luke Cox, his Road to God, also writing as social action.

Another title is James Jesus Angleton, the CIA,

and the craft of counterintelligence, which ties into this book. Guy Burgess, revolutionary,

and an old school tie, also ties into this book. Another title is the black poverty cycle,

how to end it. Another one is Donald and Melinda McLean. Idealism and Espionage ties into this book.

The Chains of Black America, also the language of anti-communism, three-fifths of an education, and then two novels.

One title is Mary Blair West, and another is Pax, 1934 to 1941.

And Michael Holtzman was born in Brookings, South Dakota. He's just completing writing.

Another nonfiction book, title of that is the Anglo-American Cold War, as well as another

novel. And he lives in Briararcliffe Manor, New York.

And his website is his full name, Michael, H-O-L-Z-M-A-N.com.

So Michael Holtzman, welcome to the show.

Thanks for agreeing to the interview.

Thank you for having mea.

Awesome.

For people who may not have known your name, your other books or your background. Can you kind of talk

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