You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature,

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience, and maybe that's you.

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.

Welcome to the download of Money Books Live, the program about your money.

Following the murder of George Floyd, in May last year, many people began looking for practical ways to show their support

for the black community. In June, musician Swiss, from the group So Solid crew launched Black

Pound Day, encouraging consumers to spend with black-owned businesses on the first Saturday of every

month as a way of bringing positive change and addressing economic inequality.

Other initiatives have also been springing up. We'll be finding out about some of those

in this episode and asking whether consciously choosing to buy from black-owned businesses

is making a difference. Well, let's talk now to the founders of two businesses.

Cheryl Brown is the founder of Black Reading Card and lifestyle brand, Kinch Noir,

and Jamelia Donaldson is the founder of hair care business, Treasure Tress.

Now, let's start with you, Cheryl.

Could you tell us about why you started your business?

What gave you the idea?

Sure.

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