Welcome to Nobody Told Me.

I'm Laura Owens.

And I'm Jan Black.

And we are so thrilled to welcome back one of our favorite guests because his advice

just might save your life or even the life of someone you love.

Joining us once again is Spencer Curson, one of the world's top experts in threat management.

Spencer is a former Army Ranger who's developed and led security plans for major celebrities,

sports stars, and corporate executives. He's the founder of the Curson Security Group and the author

of the book, The Safety Trap, a security expert secrets for staying safe in a dangerous world.

Spencer, thank you for joining us once again.

Laura and Jen, it is a true pleasure to be back with both of you.

Well, your book is absolutely fabulous. We have referred to it so many

times in conversation since we had you on the program last time. And I'm wondering if you could

again tell people what this safety trap is that you talk about and that you titled the book.

Absolutely. The safety trap is a phrase I coined several years ago to help my clients to better

understand how sometimes feeling safe is the most dangerous thing we do. Because when we feel safe,

we have a tendency to allow our vigilance to go down. And anytime our vigilance goes down, of course,

the risk will sometimes naturally rise. And sometimes, you know, people are like, well,

you know, I don't want to live my life in this, like, you know, constantly on alert or constantly,

like, as a pivot. And what this book is really about is how all most of us really ever need to succeed

in staying safe is just a healthy sense of skepticism and a moderate dose of vigilance

so that we can learn how to because, you know, no one really fears that which we know well.

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