About a year or so ago, I sent a LinkedIn request to a bigwig at PRX, the public radio exchange.

Their podcast network has a lot of great content, and I thought Dating While Gray would enhance their roster.

The bigwig accepted my LinkedIn request, but he very nicely and quickly said no thanks

to Dating While Gray joining PRX.

They'd recently signed a contract for a dating-related podcast, and he didn't think

there was an audience for the both of us.

Well, that show has since launched.

It's now in season two.

It's funny and insightful.

The guests are open and really put it all out there.

But otherwise, surprise, it's nothing like dating while gray.

Of course there's room for both of us.

There is one big coincidence.

The creator and producer lives right here in my new hometown.

We got together recently to talk about our shared mission.

As you'll hear, she's also keenly interested in gray daters.

My name is Caitlin Pierce, and I'm the creator and producer of Hang Up, which is a reality dating podcast with no rings attached.

I love the tagline. What I'm curious about is how you got interested in the topic of dating as a podcaster.

Well, obviously, I'm very medium biased, but I often think that in

audio, we do like better versions of what is done in television. So I think we assume that our

audience is smarter. I think that we just make like better quality work.

When I came up with the idea for Hang Up, I was, it was in December 2020, so a dark time,

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