Spectator Out Loud: Tim Shipman, Ben Clerkin, Maxwell Marlow & Hermione Eyre
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The Spectator
4.3 • 826 Ratings
🗓️ 30 March 2026
⏱️ 25 minutes
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On this week’s Spectator Out Loud: looking back to 1973, Tim Shipman wonders how bad the energy crisis could get; Ben Clerkin interviews Steve Hilton, the former Cameron aide running to be California’s next governor; Maxwell Marlow explains how to solve the student debt crisis; and finally, ‘disorientatingly enjoyable’ is the verdict of Hermione Eyre as she reviews David Hockney at the Serpentine.
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| 0:00.0 | The British right is up for grabs. As May's local elections approach, the Conservatives face strong competition from Reform UK. |
| 0:07.9 | Join the Spectator's assistant editor, Isabel Hardman, for the spectator debate, the fight for the right, on Wednesday, the 29th of April in London. |
| 0:15.5 | We will pit the Conservatives represented by Matthew Saeed and Dominic Johnson against Reform UK, represented by Matt Goodwin and Danny Kruger. |
| 0:23.6 | To see which party truly represents the future of the right, |
| 0:27.2 | book your tickets at spectator.com forward slash fight. |
| 0:42.3 | Hello and welcome to Spectator Out Loud, |
| 0:46.1 | where each week we choose some of our favourite pieces from the magazine and ask their writers to read them aloud. |
| 0:49.1 | I'm Patrick Gibbons and on this week's podcast, |
| 0:52.1 | Tim Shipman ponderes how bad the energy crisis could get, reminding Labor |
| 0:56.0 | that, after the 1973 crisis, very few sitting governments were re-elected. Ben Clerkin |
| 1:03.0 | interviews Steve Hilton, the former Cameron aide, now running to be California's next governor. |
| 1:08.9 | And from our money supplement, Maxwell Marlow explains how to solve |
| 1:12.6 | the student debt crisis. And finally, Hermione Air reviews a new David Hockney exhibition at the |
| 1:18.8 | Serpentine, calling it disorientatingly enjoyable. David Hockney, a year in Normandy and some other |
| 1:24.8 | thoughts about painting, runs until the 23rd of August. |
| 1:28.6 | Up first, Tim Shipman. |
| 1:31.1 | We're into 1973 territory now. |
| 1:33.7 | The energy price surge caused by war in the Middle East has sent shockwaves through Westminster. |
| 1:37.6 | It has pushed up inflation and the cost of borrowing, |
| 1:40.0 | causing panic in the cabinet and the recognition that government intervention could be needed |
| 1:43.6 | on a vast scale to support the cost that government intervention could be needed on a |
| 1:44.3 | vast scale to support the cost of living. The Prime Minister told a private audience, the assumption that the |
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