I'm here with a special edition on brand with a very very important guest today, very timely guest today.

You may have heard of Michael Cohn.

He has been a tad in the news lately.

He is of course President Trump's former fixer. He is coming off a I would guess

would be an exhilarating week for him. Obviously Donald Trump fell guilty on

old 34 counts. Michael Cohn is a good friend of mine, full disclosure and I'm happy to have me here today.

Welcome, sir.

Donnie D. How are you? That's the question. How are you feeling? Take me inside. First, let's go back. I actually called you a few minutes after the verdict and I remember what you told me, but I'd love to hear, tell our audience, what did it feel like as soon as you first heard that first guilty?

So I was sitting with my wife and my daughter.

My son was at work.

And we were watching actually MS NBC and all of a sudden they announce that in 30

minutes the jury is going to be

rendering its ultimate decision that they've come to a decision.

And that's 30 minutes was probably the longest 30 minutes

because for six years as you know Donnie because you've been on this journey with me longer than six years in fact it's been eight years since the raid on my home the hotel and my law office.

So we sat and we waited and then all of a sudden the verdict came down.

And once that first count was read as guilty I knew that all 34 counts were going to be guilty as well.

How did you know that?

How did you know that?

You can only start with the non-guilty.

Right.

So, now it's not a hundred percent that way, but they generally do start with a not guilty verdict,

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