Special episode: The COVID lockdown protests, with David Moser and Jeremiah Jenne
Sinica Podcast
Kaiser Kuo
4.8 • 676 Ratings
🗓️ 29 November 2022
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
We've got a special bonus episode this week on the protests over the weekend of November 26th-27th in multiple cities around China. Joining Kaiser and Jeremy are old friends David Moser and Jeremiah Jenne, co-hosts of the Barbarians at the Gate podcast, who have 50 years in Beijing between them. David Moser is a linguist, academic administrator, and accomplished jazz pianist and composer. Jeremiah Jenne is a writer and historian. Both David and Jeremiah are still in Beijing, and they offer an on-the-ground account of what happened and what it all means.
A transcript of this podcast is available at TheChinaProject.com.
Recommendations –
Jeremy: The Twitter account 李老师不是你老师 (Lǐ lǎoshī bùshì nǐ lǎoshī), with the handle @whyyoutouzhele; Cindy Yu’s Twitter account @CindyXiaodanYu
Jeremiah: Hygienic Modernity: Meanings of Health and Disease in Treaty-Port China by Ruth Rogaski
David: The Globe and Mail article “In rare show of weakness, China's censors struggle to keep up with zero COVID protests” by James Griffith; Speak Not: Empire, Identity and the Politics of Language by James Griffith
Kaiser: Happiness is 4 Million Pounds, a New York Times documentary by Hao Wu
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Cynical podcast, the weekly discussion of current affairs in China, produced in partnership with The China Project. |
| 0:15.3 | Subscribe to Access from the China Project to get access, access to not only our great daily |
| 0:19.9 | newsletters, but all the original |
| 0:21.2 | writing on our website at the China Project.com. We cover everything from China's fraught |
| 0:26.4 | foreign relations to its ingenious entrepreneurs, from the ongoing repression of Uyghurs and |
| 0:31.2 | other Muslim peoples in China's Xinjiang region, to Beijing's ambitious plans to shift the Chinese |
| 0:36.9 | economy onto a post-carbon footing. |
| 0:39.7 | It's a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a nation that is reshaping the world. |
| 0:45.3 | We cover China with neither fear nor favor. A reminder that if you like this podcast, subscribers |
| 0:50.3 | to access, get an ad-free version of the show every Monday. |
| 0:56.2 | That's four days before the public release. |
| 0:59.8 | I am Kaiser Guo, coming to you from Chapel Hill, North Carolina. |
| 1:04.2 | Joining me is Z. Umi, aka Jeremy Goldcorn, editor-in-chief of the China Project, |
| 1:09.4 | a man who has yet to correctly solve a single-wordle puzzle after nearly 400 attempts. |
| 1:09.9 | It's amazing. |
| 1:11.7 | I think that's the record. |
| 1:19.8 | Jeremy, greet the people, won't you? Yeah, wordle is a curse on the world. At least Twitter is dying now, so I don't have to see your wordal results every day, Kaiser. Well, I've stopped |
| 1:24.8 | posting. I stopped playing world. Anyway, today we've asked two old friends who are still in Beijing to join us on the show |
| 1:31.3 | to talk about the remarkable protests that took place over this last weekend in Beijing, Shanghai, |
| 1:36.0 | and at least six or seven other cities around China. |
| 1:39.5 | Jeremiah Jenny and David Moser are both familiar to anyone who remembers the show from |
| 1:43.1 | back in the day when Yumi and I were still in Beijing in that grottie apartment. |
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