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to register for our blog and join a progressive army. Joining me now is Professor Anthea Butler. She is an associate professor of

religious studies and graduate chair at the University of Pennsylvania and the leading authority

on Pentecostalism. She is also the author of the forthcoming book, White Evangelical Racism,

The Politics of Mor morality in America.

I am so excited to have you on this podcast,

and I'm actually doing video because I just,

I've been looking forward to this conversation for a while.

How are you today?

Oh, good, Ben, how you doing?

I'm doing great.

I have quiet as this is my second time getting a chance to interview the first time I think I told you but I never told

my audience, my direct audience.

I have quietly been a follower of your work for at least 10 years.

Or however long, whenever your first time was on MSNBC, I don't know how long ago that was but it felt like 9.

That's about 9 years ago.

And what stood out to me about your work was just your perspective on faith and religion as it intersects with politics, which was really something that I was trying to find my way through during that time.

So I'm excited to be interviewing you. Tell us about your upcoming book.

Oh my upcoming book is going to be on Ferris and Ferris which is a division of the

UNC press. It's called White Evangelical Racism, the Politics of Morality in America,

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