And This is Tim Heidker. I'm making a podcast for my record called Fear of Death, working title Fear of Death. I'm speaking

with two of my collaborators on the record, Natalie Merring.

Yeah.

And Drew Erikson.

Hello.

Hello.

I think we could start, let me just start with some context.

Is it okay that I'm not looking at you?

You don't have to look at us.

Okay.

We, to backtrack, I know you, Natalie, because the common link between us is Father John

Misty.

Yeah.

Do you know that?

I didn't know that. How was that link made? Well, we both, this was in the last, last end of 2018, we both performed at his...

Oh, that's right, the Fire Benefit at the Ace Hotel.

And I actually knew who you were because Jonathan Rado had told me about you.

He said he was producing you and described you as a very talented singer, songwriter.

Thank you.

Rado.

And he said, you would really like her music because he knows what kind of music I like.

And he was right.

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