Special Edition: Two Years of War – Israel, Gaza & Searching for Peace
The NewsWorthy
Erica Mandy
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🗓️ 4 October 2025
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
We're just days away from the two-year mark of the Hamas attack on Israel and the start of the war in Gaza that continues today.
We're speaking with Dr. Boaz Atzili — a professor of international security with deep personal ties to this conflict.
He reflects on the impact of October 7th, the costs and consequences of the war, and possible paths forward for Israelis, Palestinians, and the region.
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| 0:00.0 | Today is Saturday, October 4th. We're just days away from the two-year mark of the Hamas attack on Israel |
| 0:05.8 | and the start of the deadly war in Gaza that continues today. Just this week, a new deal was |
| 0:10.9 | proposed to end the war. As we discussed this today, I do want to acknowledge the various and |
| 0:16.0 | very strong opinions different people have about this topic. It's not an easy one to talk about, but we believe |
| 0:21.8 | it's still important to do so. So we reached out to today's guest for both his professional |
| 0:26.6 | and his personal connection to this war. We also wanted to highlight a voice that reflects the |
| 0:32.3 | complexity of this moment, that it's not only pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian. Dr. Boaz-Azili is a professor at American |
| 0:40.4 | University School of International Service. His research has long focused on territorial conflict |
| 0:45.3 | and border politics, and he's written extensively on Israel and security policy. And his family |
| 0:51.1 | has also been directly affected. His cousin, Aviv Atzili, was among those killed on October 7, 23. |
| 0:58.0 | Aviv's remains were taken, though Israeli defense forces recovered his body in Gaza months later. |
| 1:03.1 | Aviv's wife, Liyat, is an Israeli-American who was taken hostage into Gaza. After weeks in captivity, |
| 1:08.9 | she was released in a hostage deal. Boas Azzili is here to reflect |
| 1:12.9 | on the impact of that day two years ago for his family and the world, the ongoing costs and |
| 1:18.6 | consequences of the war, and what he sees as possible paths forward, for Israelis, for Palestinians, |
| 1:25.1 | and for the region as a whole. |
| 1:32.1 | Welcome, welcome to the Newsworthy Special Edition Saturday, |
| 1:36.4 | when we sit down with a different expert or celebrity every Saturday to talk about something in the news. |
| 1:39.8 | Don't forget to tune in every Monday through Friday for our regular episodes, |
| 1:42.3 | where we provide all the day's news in 10 minutes. |
| 1:45.9 | I'm Erica Mandy. It's now time for today's special edition Saturday. |
| 1:54.2 | Boaz, Atzili, thank you so much for joining us here on The Newsworthy. |
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