Special Edition: Science of Scrolling & How to Stop
The NewsWorthy
Erica Mandy
4.7 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 11 October 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Are our phones rewiring our brains?
Americans now spend more than four hours a day on their phones — and check them hundreds of times without even realizing it. So why is it so hard to stop scrolling, and what is all that screen time actually doing to our brains, our bodies, and our relationships?
Neuroscientist Dr. Julie Fratantoni explains the science behind smartphone addiction — and how we can reverse the damage. Then, psychotherapist and author Shannon Algeo shares practical strategies from his "digital liberation" retreats — including one simple step you can try today that could make a big difference.
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| 0:00.0 | Today is Saturday, October 11th. If you've ever felt like your phone has a hold on you, |
| 0:04.5 | you're not alone. Studies show the average American now spends more than four hours a day on their |
| 0:08.8 | phone and checks it around 200 times daily, sometimes without even realizing it. So why is it so |
| 0:14.7 | hard to put our phones down? And what is all that screen time actually doing to our brains, |
| 0:20.1 | our bodies, and our relationships? |
| 0:22.4 | Today, we're diving into the science of scrolling and the strategies to stop. |
| 0:26.6 | First up, I'm talking with Dr. Julie Frattentone. She's a cognitive neuroscientist who's spent |
| 0:31.3 | over a decade studying how to improve cognitive performance. She's helped thousands of people |
| 0:36.0 | train their brains and runs the popular substack newsletter, Better Brain. |
| 0:40.4 | Later in the show, we'll hear from a psychotherapist, researcher, and author who leads digital |
| 0:44.4 | detox retreats around the world. |
| 0:46.5 | But first, Dr. Julie Frat and Tony is here to explain why our phones can change the way our brains work |
| 0:51.4 | and how we can reverse any damage. |
| 0:56.8 | Welcome, welcome to the Newsworthy special edition Saturday when we sit down with a different |
| 1:00.9 | expert or celebrity every Saturday to talk about something in the news. |
| 1:04.3 | Don't forget to tune in every Monday through Friday for our regular episodes where we provide |
| 1:08.3 | all the day's news in 10 minutes. |
| 1:10.3 | I'm Erica Mandy. It's now time for |
| 1:11.9 | today's special edition Saturday. Dr. Julie Frat and Tony, thank you so much for joining us here |
| 1:19.5 | on The Newsworthy. Thanks for having me. So I know that you've said digital addiction is not a phone |
| 1:24.9 | problem necessarily, that it's more of an emotional regulation problem. Can you |
| 1:29.3 | explain what you mean by that and how do you, how did you come to that conclusion? Yeah, well, I don't |
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