Welcome to the special edition of Legal AF. This is the midweek edition. I'm your host

Karen Friedman Agnifalo, and I'm thrilled here to have my friend and former colleague

Joan Alluzzi Orban. Joan was a prosecutor at the Manhattan D.A.'s office for 33 years,

was it Joan? Yes, 33. And so I've worked with Joan for a very, very long time, and Joan

is. I used to call part of the thoroughbred race forces of the Manhattan D.A.'s office. She was

one of the go-to trial attorneys when you had a really serious case or a really big case.

She tried some of the biggest cases in the office that I'm excited that she's agreed to be here

to talk to us about. Hi Joan, welcome. Hi Karen, Harry you. Karen, for those people who don't know,

was my boss at the Manhattan D.A.'s office, and one could ask for a better supervisor and boss.

She not only was brilliant, but also gave people the freedom to think for themselves and

encourage people to soar in whatever capacity they can at their job. Well, it's very, very nice

if you have a today's about you, not about me. And so when thinking about sort of talking to Joan

and talking to you about your incredible career, there's been so many cases that you've tried

and won, that it was hard to decide which ones to choose from. And so the two cases that come to

mind that were really, at least to me, just incredible victories and incredible, incredible trials

that you did, investigations and trials. One was the kind of, I guess it was 50-year-old case

involving Aton Pates. There was this young boy named Aton Pates, who in 1972 went missing.

And he started the Missing Children Act and the sort of movement. And anyone who saw

who remembers children on milk cartons, that started from the Aton Pates case here in Manhattan.

And that case went cold for the better part of, since 1972, they never could solve the case,

right, Joan? Yeah, it was actually 79, but since 79 until a DA advance came in and asked to staff

to re-examine and look into the case, it was very little to no activity. And how old was he?

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