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Ukraine: The Latest

Special: Drones, AI, and the New Rules of War

Ukraine: The Latest

Louisa Wells / Francis Dearnley

Guns, Documentary, News, Society & Culture, Daily News, Jets, Volodymyr Zelensky, Russia, Army, Ukraine, Tanks, Vladimir Putin, Russians, History, War, Russia-ukraine Conflict

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Today is a public holiday in Britain, so we bring you a special panel Francis Dearnley hosted during his trip to Germany at the LANDEURO conference hosted by the Association of the U.S. Army. Titled “Ukrainian Innovation at the Speed of Relevance”, it offers a firsthand look at how Ukraine’s defense forces are reshaping the future of military conflict, centering on how wartime necessity has accelerated innovation across critical domains, particularly artificial intelligence, drone warfare, digital finance, and scalable software. It is one of the deepest dives on drone development we have ever covered on the podcast.


Speakers:


Mr. Yaroslav Azhnyuk, CEO and Founder, TheFourthLaw


Mr. Oleksandr Kubrakov, Advisor to the Minister of Defence of Ukraine and, Co-Founder, We Build Ukraine


Mr. Eric Hauff, Senior Director, International Business for Eastern Europe and NATO, ISR, Aviation and Security Division, Sierra Nevada Corporation


Mr. Sebastian Kuhl, Director Sales Land, Helsing


LINKS


Learn More about the panel and LANDEURO:

https://www.army.mil/article/287145/landeuro_ukrainian_innovation_at_the_speed_of_relevance 


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Transcript

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0:00.0

The Telegraph.

0:05.0

I'm Domnickles and this is Ukraine the latest.

0:12.0

Today is a public holiday in Britain, so we bring you a special panel

0:17.0

Francis hosted during his trip to Germany at the Land Euroconference hosted by the Association of the U.S. Army.

0:24.1

Titled Ukrainian Innovation at the Speed of Relevance, it offers a first-hand look at how Ukraine's

0:29.5

defense forces are reshaping the future of military conflict, centered on how wartime necessity

0:35.2

has accelerated innovation across critical domains,

0:38.5

particularly artificial intelligence, drone warfare, digital finance and scalable software.

0:45.1

It is one of the deepest dives on drone development we've ever done on the podcast.

0:50.2

Francis begins by asking the panelists to introduce themselves.

0:54.2

You can find more information about each of them in the episode description.

1:00.1

Let's start with Yaroslav.

1:01.3

In one minute, can you summarize yourself and your expertise relevant to this subject?

1:05.6

Sure.

1:06.0

Thank you so much.

1:06.9

Hello everyone.

1:07.8

My name is Yaroslav Aznuk.

1:09.3

I'm Ukrainian.

1:10.3

I'm a founder of two defense

1:11.9

companies, the fourth law, which does massively scalable autonomy systems for drones,

1:17.6

and odd systems which makes thermal cameras and mass produces the FPB drones.

1:23.2

My background, I was born and raised in Kiev in Ukraine, educated as a computer scientist,

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