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SPEAKING SOON TO RUSSELL SHORTO FOR HIS NEW "TAKING MANHATTAN: The Extraordinary Events That Created New York and Shaped America:" 1/4: Smalltime: A Story of My Family and the Mob. by Russell Shorto

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 23 March 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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SPEAKING SOON TO RUSSELL SHORTO FOR HIS NEW "TAKING MANHATTAN: The Extraordinary Events That Created New York and Shaped America:" 1/4: Smalltime: A Story of My Family and the Mob. by Russell Shorto


https://www.amazon.com/Smalltime-Story-My-Family-Mob/dp/0393245586/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Family secrets emerge as a best-selling author dives into the history of the mob in small-town America.


The best-selling author Russell Shorto, praised for his incisive works of narrative history, never thought to write about his own past. He grew up knowing his grandfather and namesake was a small-town mob boss but maintained an unspoken family vow of silence. Then an elderly relative prodded: You’re a writer―what are you gonna do about the story?


Smalltime is a mob story straight out of central casting―but with a difference, for the small-town mob, which stretched from Schenectady to Fresno, is a mostly unknown world. The location is the brawny postwar factory town of Johnstown, Pennsylvania. The setting is City Cigar, a storefront next to City Hall, behind which Russ and his brother-in-law, “Little Joe,” operate a gambling empire and effectively run the town.


Smalltime is a riveting American immigrant story that travels back to Risorgimento Sicily, to the ancient, dusty, hill-town home of Antonino Sciotto, the author’s great-grandfather, who leaves his wife and children in grinding poverty for a new life―and wife―in a Pennsylvania mining town. It’s a tale of Italian Americans living in squalor and prejudice, and of the rise of Russ, who, like thousands of other young men, created a copy of the American establishment that excluded him. Smalltimedraws an intimate portrait of a mobster and his wife, sudden riches, and the toll a lawless life takes on one family.
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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor.

0:11.9

This is the new John Bachelor Show, CBS Audio Network.

0:15.5

I welcome the historian and narrator, Russell Shorto,

0:31.8

distinguished for having written books about Manhattan about the Revolutionary War, but now he takes us to a small town in western Pennsylvania, famous for a catastrophe, Johnstown.

0:36.0

The catastrophe happened some years before our story.

0:41.8

Nonetheless, it makes Johnstown a famous version of Americana between the Industrial Revolution, and here we are in the 21st century. Russell, congratulations,

0:48.6

and good evening. The book is entitled Small Time. It is subtitled, a story of my family, your family, Russell, and the mob.

0:57.7

We go to an event that was critical to the players in your book.

1:02.7

October 30, 1971.

1:05.5

The Tribune Democrat, the Johnstown local newspaper, published 185 pages of a report issued by the federal government about organized crime.

1:16.6

It read in part, during the course of that survey, commission investigators received allegations that a serious condition existed in the Johnstown area with regard to large-scale legal gambling operations

1:29.9

and the relationship to local government and law enforcement.

1:34.5

One particular man named in this report, Joe Regino, and we will introduce, called

1:40.3

affectionately Little Joe, made a remark that he would have every tribune democrat

1:45.7

destroyed you report that you went looking for it in the town library and in the tribune

1:51.1

democrat records did you find it russell good evening to you good evening john thanks for

1:56.6

having me on your show no i didn't um jo regino, who was the boss of the operation of the local

2:05.3

franchise of the mob in my hometown, Johnstown, indeed vowed that every copy of the Tribune

2:12.7

Democrat he would destroy because it printed this about him.

2:19.1

And he seems to have done it.

2:21.5

I searched many other places as well.

2:27.3

And finally, I went to the Tribune Democrat itself, and they had helped me a good deal in my research.

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