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The Daily Dad

Spare Them Either Extreme

The Daily Dad

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Society & Culture, Dads, Relationships, Parenting, Self-improvement, Kids & Family, Ryan Holiday, Wisdom, Education, Fatherhood

4.8602 Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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The key is balance. We want our kids to work hard, but not at the cost of their well-being.

 

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Daily Dad podcast, where we provide one lesson every single day to help you with your most important job, being a parent.

0:14.8

I'm Ryan Holiday, and I draw these lessons from ancient philosophy, modern psychology, practical wisdom, and insights from

0:23.4

parents just like you all over the world. Thank you for listening, and we hope this helps.

0:31.7

Spare them either extreme. We don't want them to be lazy. We don't want them to be entitled. We don't want to spoil them.

0:40.1

That's why parents have always tried to make their kids work for things. It's why they wrestled.

0:44.8

In the ancient world, just as we do today, about which desires to indulge and which hills to

0:49.0

die on when to say yes and when to say no. The idea is that we're trying to raise self-sufficient kids,

0:56.0

adults who take pride in effort, who are driven and ambitious, and have the grit to go after

1:02.2

what they want in life. But just as we're concerned about our kids having too little of this,

1:07.2

we ought also to consider if we're giving them too much. It's not just entitlement that

1:12.5

we ought to occur, but also the tendency towards obsession, burnout, and the belief that their

1:17.9

worth is measured only by their productivity. A recent profile of Sarah McNally, the owner of

1:25.0

New York's amazing book chain, McNally Jackson, focused on her tough childhood.

1:30.1

Sarah never got an allowance as a kid.

1:32.1

She had to earn every penny she ever got to spend.

1:35.1

I had my first job at eight, she recalls.

1:37.6

I had to wake up before school and deliver newspapers.

1:41.0

You can't imagine, she said.

1:42.5

It was so cold that your eyelashes froze shut because of the

1:46.0

condensation from your eyeballs, which are tearyant. This was not her only job as a kid either. It was a

1:51.8

grind, an exhausting grind that taught her many positive lessons, but also wore her down.

1:57.9

It's a grind she sought to mitigate with her own son, despite complaints and judgment

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