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The Atlas Obscura Podcast

Spaces for Spies

The Atlas Obscura Podcast

SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura

Society & Culture, Places & Travel

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2023

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Places editors Jonathan Carey and Michelle Cassidy bring us two stories about two particular places whose histories intersect with real world American espionage. READ MORE IN THE ATLAS: Check out our entry on the FBI House here and on the Wertheim Study in the NY Public Library here.

Transcript

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0:00.0

The world's most famous spy is James Bond, the fictional character created by British

0:08.7

writer Ian Fleming.

0:10.2

There have been more than 20 movies made based on Bond, fighting villains, you know, Dr.

0:15.3

No, Goldfinger, odd job.

0:18.4

And of course there is the theme song, which you recognize in the first moment it starts.

0:23.9

But there are real spies out there in the world, doing real spycraft.

0:29.6

And it has a lot less to do with handsome British guys jumping out of airplanes or running

0:35.2

across crocodiles, and a lot more to do with libraries and nondescript houses.

0:44.2

That is what actual spycraft looks like.

0:47.0

It is quiet, it is often boring, it is also totally fascinating.

0:53.9

And today our places editors, Jonathan Carey and Michelle Cassidy have two stories about

0:59.4

real world espionage, espionage that may have bored James Bond tears, but is nonetheless

1:06.5

how it actually happens.

1:09.5

Every library holds its share of mysteries, from long forgotten manuscripts to ancient artifacts.

1:16.4

They are also bastions of solitude, the perfect place to hold meetings, conduct research,

1:22.2

and sometimes share secrets.

1:29.9

But really did those secrets ever come to light?

1:33.4

Except for the case of the World Himes study located inside the New York Public Library

1:38.0

in Manhattan, New York.

1:40.4

The room was created in the 1960s by Barbara Tuckney, and is often referred to as exceedingly

1:47.2

quiet, and is dedicated to scholars and writers.

1:52.1

The World Himes study in its veil of silence became the perfect place for Earl Edwin

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