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Planetary Radio: Space Exploration, Astronomy and Science

Space Policy Edition: The Moral Case for Space Science

Planetary Radio: Space Exploration, Astronomy and Science

The Planetary Society

Technology, Science

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Why do we explore space? In this Space Policy Edition rerun, Casey Dreier speaks with philosopher Dr. J. S. Johnson-Schwartz about why space science is a moral obligation, beyond economics or prestige.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the space Policy Edition of Planetary Radio.

0:23.9

I'm Casey Dreyer, the chief of space policy here at the Planetary Society, welcoming you to

0:28.9

yet another episode that explores the policies and processes behind space exploration.

0:35.6

I've been trying not to get too much into the day-to-day activities of politics and policies

0:41.1

in this show lately.

0:42.9

I've been wanting the episodes to more stand on their own and be relevant for years to come,

0:48.2

thinking about big ideas and big thoughts in space.

0:51.8

But it's worth stopping for a minute at the end of this year, in December of 2025,

0:57.4

to reflect on what has happened, what we've done,

1:01.3

and to really discuss and kind of consider why we care so much about space science in the first place.

1:09.7

Earlier this year, we were confronted with probably the worst budget ever proposed for NASA,

1:17.2

certainly for NASA science.

1:19.5

We saw cuts upwards of 25% for the agency overall, but 50% for the science activities.

1:26.8

Things like the robotic missions to Pluto and Jupiter

1:30.0

would be terminated in mid-flight. Earth science, heliophysics, almost every space telescope

1:36.4

would have been turned off, except for the Hubble and James Webb. And basically, the pipeline

1:41.8

of future missions would dry to a trickle.

1:48.1

Research funding across the nation would be eviscerated,

1:54.7

and many other long-term and consequential impacts would have occurred from this, and still may occur.

2:02.6

In response, here at the Planetary Society, at least, we tore up whatever ideas we had for that year and started anew with the Save NASA Science campaign.

2:06.6

This was a sophisticated and very ambitious effort to provide a consistent framing, media outreach, political outreach, and organizational engagement with you, our listeners and members of the Planetary Society,

2:23.3

to push back in a way that would stop these cuts in their tracks.

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