Space Policy Edition: Lori Garver on Bringing Change to NASA

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🗓️ 5 August 2022

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Former NASA deputy administrator Lori Garver returns for a deep conversation with Casey Dreier about her fight to turn the agency toward commercial partnerships and away from the expensive Constellation program.

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0:00.0	Welcome everyone, once again, to the Space Policy Edition of Planetary Radio.
0:19.5	I'm Matt Kaplan, the host of the weekly show, back once again, as we usually are on the
0:25.8	first Friday of the month with the Senior Space Policy Advisor for the Planetary Society and our
0:31.6	Chief Advocate, Casey Dreyer. Welcome, Casey. Thanks, Matt. I am so looking forward to sharing this
0:39.1	wonderful conversation that I have just listened to that you have just had with Laurie Garver,
0:45.9	the former deputy administrator of NASA. And as you know, the author of this terrific new book,
0:53.3	Escaping Gravity, which I talked to Laurie about just a few weeks ago, and was so looking forward
0:59.1	to it. And I know she was looking forward to it as well. This follow-up conversation with you,
1:04.0	it so well complements that conversation that I had with her. I think people are going to love it.
1:09.6	I really tried to take a different track to expand on the discussion that you had and that she's
1:15.0	been having on other shows. And I don't think you'll hear anything quite like this. We kind of
1:19.9	take the themes of the book and really use that as a jumping-off point to explore broader,
1:25.4	how do you make it change at an organization? How do you implement policy that gets put in place
1:31.1	successfully? And to really challenge some of both of our models about what commercial and private
1:38.2	space flight will mean to the public and some of the thoughts on big programs like the SLS. And so
1:44.8	it's a more of a conversation than an interview about the book. But she's again, it's built on
1:50.4	that foundation. I really enjoyed talking to her about it. And as I said to you and Laurie,
1:55.1	at the end of it, it was so wonderful to be able to listen to two people who are so knowledgeable
2:01.0	on this topic and so passionate about it. Also, that she mentioned several times during the
2:07.0	conversation. She brought up things which did not make it into the book because the book obviously
2:12.6	was directed to a popular audience. Sounded like she was very happy to be able to talk about
2:19.5	these deeper policy and related issues with you. Talking to a knowledgeable person who's been through
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