Before we start a quick warning during this episode you'll hear several uses of a racial

slur so listener discretion is advised.

Previously on murder etc. Mary Ann say I don't want you to go.

She said, I want you to stay here with me.

I told her, I'm going to go ahead after that,

her feelings changed.

You look at Charles's mug shot from when they brought him in on January 31st, 1975. He's got like a 10 inch afro with a beard.

And then you look at the composite sketch,

and it looks like Frank Sinatra.

There were really two Greenville's here in the upper of the state.

If you lived out in Botany Woods or out the Augusta Road area, you didn't know, didn't see,

it had really affected by the fact that at night

the streets of Main Street turned into drug dealing

places, houses, places of prostitution.

I can't even go home in peace because you sit there and you think about it.

The slightest little mistake, the slightest little bubble, it can be a tail light out. It can be anything and they stop you. You know,

or let me see your idea. Oh, okay. Are you that Charles Wakefield? You see what I'm saying?

If you're afraid they might try to do something.

I'm afraid.

I'm afraid. There are a lot of ways to get to Greenville. You can land at Greenville Spartanburg Airport. You can come across Interstate 85, you can come up or down I 26 and hit 385.

Or you can come in on the Amtrak Crescent, a rail line that stops in the heart of the city at a station on Washington Street.

Man, this was like jumping.

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