South Africa's case for preventing genocide in Palestine; plus, why people love cults

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🗓️ 26 January 2024

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This morning, the International Court of Justice shared a decision on South Africa's genocide case against Israel. The courts found sufficient evidence that it's "plausible" that Israel has committed acts of genocide in Gaza and ruled that Israel must prevent genocidal attacks. Earlier this week, host Brittany Luse sat down with South African journalist Redi Tlhabi to look at the context of this story and lay out how the histories of Israel and South Africa factor into this moment.

Then, Brittany chats with Professor Poulomi Saha about America's obsession with cults. With so many shows choose from, cult documentaries could now be seen as their own genre. But what might our fascination with cults reveal about society's shortfalls?

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0:16.0	Hello hello. I'm Brittany Loose and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about
0:25.2	what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident. Today the International Court of Justice, also known as the ICJ, found that it is plausible
0:45.6	that Israel has committed acts of genocide in Gaza.
0:49.0	The courts gave this order.
0:51.1	The court is also of the view that Israel must take measures within its power to prevent
0:57.0	and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to the members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip.
1:06.0	To be clear, the courts are demanding Israel prevent genocide.
1:10.0	It did not find Israel guilty of genocide, and there is currently no order for a ceasefire in the region.
1:16.8	The ICJ is requiring Israel submit a report to the court within a month to explain what has been done to uphold its orders, some of which includes
1:25.4	allowing humanitarian aid into the Strip and taking more measures to protect Palestinians.
1:31.4	And this, preventing genocide, was a core part of the case brought to the ICJ by South Africa's legal team.
1:39.0	They know that to make a ruling of genocide is quite complicated.
1:43.9	Certain features have to be present.
1:46.9	South Africa, in anticipating how difficult it is to prove a genocide,
1:51.9	added other elements to its case and these elements are failure
1:57.4	to prevent a genocide.
2:00.5	This is Riede Kalabi an award-winning broadcast journalist from South Africa who covers international affairs,
2:06.8	has a master's in international relations, and has been following the case closely.
2:11.8	I spoke to her about the case earlier this week and I am so glad I did
2:15.5	because she laid out the significance of South Africa of all countries bringing this
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