This podcast is brought to you by eBay.

This is what you do when you have high standards and fancy all the fancy things,

like a Dior saddle bag or that diamond tennis bracelet.

You go to eBay.

There, you'll find new loves that will never disappoint.

Whether it's that vintage pearl necklace or brand new ruby earrings,

a prodig cross-body bag, or classic watches like that Rolex oyster

or that Cartier tank, all expertly authenticated.

On eBay, there are no limits to your high standards.

Yeah, eBay, the place for new, pre-loved, vintage, and rare fashion.

eBay, things people love. The cut. The cut. The cut.

The cut. The cut. For a hot second, circa 2014, it seemed like everybody wanted to be a hashtag girl boss. And Sophia

Emma Russo was it. She turned her DIY vintage eBay store, Nastygal, into a $300 million

company. She was on the cover of Forbes as one of America's richest self-made women. And in fact,

she named the phenomenon altogether. Her memoir, hashtag girlboss, is credited with coining the term,

and it was a New York Times bestseller for 18 weeks. But fortunes turned. Nastygal filed for bankruptcy

in 2016, and then, a string of other women founders, some of the most famous of the so-called

girl bosses, started getting cancelled for allegedly

overseeing toxic workplaces. Women leaders weren't silver bullets to equitable workplaces

after all. But who said they were supposed to be? In 2021, I wrote a piece in the cut about how, in

hindsight, we were a little too gleeful to see the downfall of the girl boss, and there was more to

it, namely, the unfair standards women leaders are held to. I've been dying to talk to Sophia about

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