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Emergence Magazine Podcast

Song of the Cedars – A Conversation with Giuliana Furci, Robert Macfarlane, César Rodríguez-Garavito, and Cosmo Sheldrake

Emergence Magazine Podcast

Emergence Magazine

Spirituality, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Natural Sciences, Society & Culture

4.7628 Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

On a field trip to Los Cedros cloud forest in Ecuador in 2022, mycologist Giuliana Furci, author Robert Macfarlane, legal scholar and More Than Human (MOTH) Life Collective founder César Rodríguez-Garavito, and musician Cosmo Sheldrake wrote and recorded “Song of the Cedars”—a composition made not just in the forest, but in conscious collaboration with it. Rich with field recordings of the ecosystem and the track’s entwined human and more-than-human melodies, this conversation between the foursome explores their ongoing effort to gain legal recognition of Los Cedros as co-creator of the song, which if successful, will be a world first.  Read the transcript. Photo by Robert Macfarlane. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Emergence Magazine's podcast.

0:03.0

I'm Emanuel Vaughn Lee, host of this show, an executive editor of Emergence Magazine,

0:09.0

located on the unseated ancestral lands of the Coast Miwok people in present-day Marin County.

0:16.0

Each week, we feature interviews, stories, poetry, and author-narrated essays, exploring the threads connecting ecology,

0:24.8

culture, and spirituality. We've long been culturally besotted with the image of the solo human

0:34.2

genius. The idea that our creativity emerges from some nameless place within the mind.

0:40.3

But it's arguable that all art has been made collaboratively with the living world.

0:46.3

From our earliest creations we've mimicked the earth myriad forms and manifestations,

0:51.3

have extracted materials, minerals,

0:55.0

stones,

0:56.0

metals,

0:57.0

to make them,

0:58.0

and have been given gifts from the earth

1:00.0

in the form of inspiration.

1:02.0

Once your eyes become adjusted to seeing the living Earth's hand

1:06.0

in all we've created,

1:08.0

it also becomes clear that we continue to neglect, philosophically, spiritually,

1:13.7

and legally to recognize this.

1:18.1

In 2022, author Robert McFarlane, psychologist Juliana Ferci, musician Cosmo Sheldrick,

1:26.2

and legal scholar and more than human rights, or Moth Project founder,

1:30.3

Cesar Rodriguez-Garavito, embarked on a field trip together to the Los Cedros Cloud Forest in Ecuador,

1:37.3

a landscape that was granted legal personhood and protection under a landmark rights of nature ruling by the Ecuadorian

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