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Son of Hamas, Spy for Israel – "The Green Prince" (From the Vault)

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Education, News, History

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

ONE OF THE GREAT SPY STORIES OF MODERN TIMES Palestinian & Israeli. Agent & Handler. Mosab & Gonen. One became involved with Hamas almost as a birthright, his father, after all, was a founder and its spiritual leader; the other was inspired to join Shin Bet, Israel’s internal security service, after the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin in 1995, and had a father in the Israeli Army. They seemed destined for a collision course. Fate would bring them together, danger would bind them together, but it was loyalty that kept them together. A unique bond was forged between Mosab Hassan Yousef, aka “The Green Prince,” and Gonen Ben Yitzhak, aka “Captain Loai,” that is remarkably rare in agent-handler relationships. “If he could come to Israel – and I know he can’t – he would be like a member of my family,” notes the Israeli, who revealed his true identity to testify on Mosab’s behalf at an immigration hearing in San Diego. Gonen’s children, meanwhile, call the Palestinian “Uncle Yousef.”  Some stories seem too far-fetched to be true. This one is both. Hopefully you can come to the International Spy Museum one day where we look at their story in one of our exhibits (in the meantime you can also stream the award-winning documentary, The Green Prince). This episode is a blast from the past, our founding Executive Director Peter Earnest was the compère, that lives on. Recommended pairings: “Shadow Wars, 2020” – Israel, Iran & America Dec 8, 2020 “Israeli Intelligence” Dec 1, 2020

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Hi and welcome to Spycast, from the secret files of the International Spy Museum in Washington DC.

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I'm Dr. Andrew Hammond, the Museum's historian and curator.

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Every week, Spycast brings you conversations with practitioners, authors and scholars

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who live in the world of global espionage.

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That's Spycast at SpyMuseum.org.

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Today we have a very unusual guest accompanied by another very unusual guest.

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And I think I would like our guest to tell you about himself as we start out.

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First of all, let me ask you your name.

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My name is Mossab Hassan Yusif.

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This is my real name.

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Today I'm known in America as Joseph.

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I go by Joseph Wong, my friends and people who don't know me or my background.

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In the past, I had a good name, the Green Prince.

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And I was limited to the Symbet, the Israeli Intelligence Service.

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Green because of the color of Islam and the Prince for being the son of Top Hamas.

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We've covered a lot of ground right there.

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So let me explain just something to our listeners.

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