The Michael Berry Show

Paisen, you're on the Michael Berry Show. What you got, sir?

So, my mom, my great-granddad, William B. Gawk,

my mom always used to talk about changing the sign of the above the door

and the sign said,

take men become big by doing what they don't want to do when they don't want to do it.

I like that.

How do you remember that?

Well, my mom always talks about it with us,

and every time we don't want to do something, she's like,

well, why don't you go look at the sign that's in Madison's bedroom?

Oh, the sign is on the wall at the house.

Okay, I thought the sign was on the wall somewhere else.

And do you go read the sign?

Yes, sir.

Oh, my goodness.

And your 12-year-old Ramon tells me?

Yes, sir.

Are you out for summer?

Are you homeschooled? What's going on?

I just graduated fifth grade. I'm out for summer.

You graduated fifth grade?

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