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🗓️ 13 December 2025
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Donald Trump says Somali immigrants in the US should “go back to where they came from.” The President’s comments come after allegations of large-scale fraud in Minnesota's social assistance programme, implicating several Somali immigrants. Trump has repeatedly criticised the community saying he does not want Somali immigrants in the United States and that their country is “no good for a reason.” In our conversations we bring together three Somalis who have made their homes in Minnesota. We also bring together Somalis in Finland, Canada and the UK, and we hear from people in Somalia itself. Somalia’s recent history has been shaped by more than 30 years of civil war, so what is it like to live in the country today?
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:09.1 | Hello, I'm James Reynolds. |
| 0:10.8 | Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service. |
| 0:14.5 | In BBC OS conversations, we bring people together to share their experiences. |
| 0:19.4 | And this time, we're hearing from Somalis, after Donald |
| 0:22.4 | Trump said that Somali immigrants in the US should go back to where they came from. |
| 0:27.4 | The president's comments came after allegations of large-scale fraud in Minnesota's Social Assistance |
| 0:33.9 | Program. Costing the state tens of millions of dollars, several Somali immigrants |
| 0:38.4 | have been implicated. Whilst those accused of involvement represent only a small fraction of |
| 0:44.1 | Minnesota's large Somali population, Trump has repeatedly criticized the community, saying that |
| 0:49.6 | he doesn't want them in the country. You know, our country's at a tipping point. We could go bad. We're at a |
| 0:55.5 | tipping point. I don't know if people mind me saying that, but I'm saying it we could go one way |
| 1:01.1 | or the other, and we're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country. |
| 1:07.1 | President Trump speaking to reporters. And later we'll hear from Somalia and from Somali immigrants around the world. |
| 1:13.9 | Firstly, though, we go to Minnesota, where the twin cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul |
| 1:18.4 | are home to one of the largest Somali communities in the world. |
| 1:22.2 | To find out what they thought of, the president's comments, |
| 1:24.6 | we brought together Kosar, a graduate student, Abdi, a film producer, |
| 1:29.7 | and Amin, an immigration lawyer. It doesn't directly affect me personally, but it affects my |
| 1:34.9 | community, it affects the people that I work with. I have community members who are panicking, |
| 1:40.2 | and this touches them, family and friends, that this impacts directly. So instead of just the regular |
| 1:46.3 | practice, I am now responding to this kind of emergency situation. Yeah, there's this kind of cloud |
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