Hi everyone. We'll be back next week with a dispatch from our listeners all about travelling with kids.

But this week, we're re-sharing a favourite episode. It's a conversation with writer and activist Rachel Cargall, all about using solo travel to rest. Like, really rest. I hope you enjoy it, and I'll see you next week.

Hello, welcome to another episode of Women Who Travel.

I'm Lale Arakoglu.

A few years ago, a friend suggested I follow Rachel Cargall on Instagram,

and I was immediately captivated by the discourse she was starting about self-care

and our obligation to bring accountability to our own feminism.

I also notice that she loves to travel.

An activist, philanthropist, educator and entrepreneur, her new memoir and manifesto,

a renaissance of our own, is about redesigning your life and being true to your values.

It has a persuasive section on the huge benefits of recharging.

I really have this definition of rest.

Looking at the physical and mental understanding of rest to get a break from the constant strain that we're under in a

variety of spaces. For me, taking a break is work in progress, and I know I'm not unique in finding

it hard to actually carve out time for myself, guilt-free. But rest for Rachel isn't seen as a

self-indulgence. It's self-preservation, an approach that often manifests itself in

her travels. When she spoke to me, she wasn't at home in New York, but in a hotel room in Washington, D.C.

It's been thunderstorming here in D.C., and I've been feeling so grateful because I have this beautiful window.

And yesterday, I literally worked from the bed.

I took a long nap during the day.

I ordered in room service.

And I was thinking about how wonderful it was to just experience a

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