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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Solana's Anatoly Yakovenko on Crypto's Next Era: Quantum, AI, and the Future of Money

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

All-In Podcast, LLC

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4.27.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) Introducing Solana Co-Founder Anatoly Yakovenko

(0:55) Crypto under Trump vs Biden, stablecoin boom, what it means for US treasuries

(5:56) Traditional exchanges using blockchain vs crypto-native exchanges, how crypto gets mass market

(10:02) Most exciting crypto verticals outside of finance: social, IP rights, real estate, CLARITY Act

(15:57) Quantum computing, AI's impact on crypto

(18:48) Bitcoin: resiliency, market cornering, risks, future

(22:45) Ethereum, Visa/Mastercard

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0:00.0

Anatoly is the CEO of a little crypto project known as Solana.

0:07.4

One of the fastest growing blockchains in the world.

0:09.8

A CEO of Salana Labs, he's driving Web3 innovation.

0:13.5

BlackRock, the world's largest asset manager, expanded its $1.7 billion tokenized money market fund to Solana.

0:21.0

Why don't we all switch to Salada?

0:22.6

I mean, Salada sounds like it's actually commercial,

0:25.1

and the other guys sound like that they're antique.

0:27.6

Everybody in the world should be a customer.

0:29.6

Crypto will eventually win. It's inevitable.

0:32.6

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome

0:36.6

Solana co-founder Anatoly Yakavenko.

0:45.3

There he is.

0:47.3

Oh man, thanks for having me.

0:49.3

You're doing.

0:50.3

Thank you.

0:52.3

Welcome.

0:53.3

Thank you. How much of a difference has David Sacks made in the first six months as Crypto Tsar for your industry?

1:02.0

Oh, it's been incredible. I mean, I think it's night and day. I don't know if the industry would have survived another four years of the Gensler regime.

1:19.3

The Genius Act, I think, is going to unlock, you know, people estimate $1 to $10 trillion with the stable coins that are going to be on public permissionless chains.

1:23.3

So if you kind of look at those charts who owns treasuriesuries, and it's China, Japan, et cetera, countries,

1:29.0

right now I think Tether is somewhere around number five,

1:32.2

I think within five years, the internet

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