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The Tikvah Podcast

Sohrab Ahmari on Sex, Desire, and the Transgender Movement

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6620 Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2018

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Contemporary Americans are living through an age of expressive individualism. No right, it seems, is as sacrosanct as the right to define one's own identity free of social constraint and opprobrium. And no phenomenon better captures this spirit of the age than the rise of the transgender movement. In the worldview of the trans movement's activists, an individual's biological sex, gender, and sexual orientation have little to no relationship to each other, and the objective facts of biology must always yield to the subjective self-conception of the individual.

In Commentary’s April 2018 cover story, “The Disappearance of Desire,” Sohrab Ahmari takes a deep dive into the world of today’s transgender activists. And he challenges the facts and science behind the reigning cultural orthodoxies about how best to help transgender individuals live lives of true fulfillment and dignity.

In this podcast, Ahmari joins Jonathan Silver to discuss his essay. In a conversation that spans philosophy, science, and culture, Ahmari and Silver seek to understand the worldview of the champions of transgender rights and wrestle with its implications for the way we understand, sex, desire, and the human person.

Musical selections in this podcast are drawn from the Quintet for Clarinet and Strings, op. 31a, composed by Paul Ben-Haim and performed by the ARC Ensemble.

Transcript

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0:00.0

A note of caution, this week's broadcast of the Tikva podcast contains themes that are not suitable

0:05.6

for children.

0:14.9

Let's begin with the book of Genesis, where we read, and the Lord God cast a deep slumber

0:19.8

on the human, and he slept, and he took one of his

0:22.6

ribs and closed over the flesh where it had been, and the Lord God built the rib he had taken from the

0:28.3

human into a woman, and he brought her to the human, and the human said, this one at last,

0:34.0

bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh, this one shall be called woman, for from man was this

0:39.6

one taken. Therefore, does a man leave his father and his mother and cling to his wife, and they

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become one flesh. That is from the second chapter of Genesis, and it is a Jewish description of the

0:51.0

origins of human sexuality that has revolutionized the world. The primordial human,

0:56.3

not yet Adam, is either not sexual or is androgynous, having within him both male and female.

1:02.3

It's the separation of woman from the primordial man that kindles the first sparks of sexual

1:08.1

longing. You can really only understand our sexual nature as it emerges

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in relationship. And this portrayal of the newly formed woman from the newly differentiated man

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is a picture of the human condition in which all sexually alive beings feel something of loneliness,

1:25.6

of being incomplete, of lacking, being somehow less than

1:29.6

whole. And that lack leads to longing for what in English we call our better half, and we

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experience this kind of desire as a yearning for completion, for a restoration of wholeness.

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That feeling is basic to sexual desire, as Genesis describes it, and it is the starting

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point for the Jewish tradition's dealings with matters male and female. Welcome to the

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Tikva podcast and great Jewish essays and ideas. I'm your host, Jonathan Silver. On today's

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podcast, we explore the fraught questions posed to the Jewish sexual ethic by the transgender movement.

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