This is the Gary V. Audio Experience.

You do talk a lot on your social channels about painting your job.

And, well, obviously everyone here loves.

Oh.

I mean, we all go through points,

whether you're on a non-traditional career path,

like some of the influencers that you work with are the entrepreneurs,

or even a more traditional path like the ones here,

what advice, what could we learn for those of us on a more traditional path

from the non-traditional paths that you work with?

You know, it's funny.

It's really hard to ask a giraffe to be a penguin or vice versa.

And so one thing that's become much more obvious to me is I've gotten older,

it's like, wow, DNA is powerful.

Like, I'm so comfortable with no and losing and fear,

but I'm so empathetic to people that aren't.

I, and this will surprise a lot of you that maybe follow me,

I'm unbelievably comfortable with aggressiveness and candor

and binary talk on stage, but one on one,

I've really struggled over the last 25 years as an executive with radical candor

and shooting it straight because I'm so optimistic and I'm always trying to fix it.

And so that's taken me a lot of work.

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