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I'm Brian Lehrer.

This is my daily politics podcast.

It's Friday, May 26th.

Yesterday, Stuart Rhodes, the leader of the far right group of the oathkeepers, right,

was sentenced to 18 years in prison after the conviction on seditious conspiracy for his role in the January 6th attack on the Capitol.

Now, while Stewart Rhodes faces the consequences of his actions on the public stage, his ex-wife, Tasha Adams, feel she's to blame. At least

that's what she told Anna Salle, creator and host of the WNYC podcast, Death, Sex, and Money,

and Michael Loinger, correspondent for WNYC's on the media, when the two interviewed her about her

experience of being married to Stuart Rhodes for two decades.

During their time together, Tasha suffered from Stewart's abuse. She supported him through school,

tended to his wounded eye after he had shot himself, hence the eye patch, if you know what

Stewart Rhodes looks like, bore his children, thus making him a,

quote, family man, and helped him through the founding of the oathkeepers. Heck, she even picked

the organization's name, the oathkeepers. Tasha provided all of the crucial reproductive work,

shall we say, that allowed Stewart to seize enough political power to lead an attack on the

United States Capitol. Anna Sail and Michael Lohinger described this story as an example of the

private origins of far-right violence. So let's get into the story with both of them now.

What a treat to have the two of you together, Anna and Micah. Welcome to the Brian

Laird Show. Welcome back in each of your cases. Hello. Hello. Hey, Brian. Thank you. Michael,

let's start with you. You have an episode of On the Media coming out today in which you talk about

being subpoenaed to testify during the Oathkeeper's trial.

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