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On the Media

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4.68.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

This week, two cases headed to the Supreme Court that could change the internet as we know it. On this week’s On the Media, a look at the legal gray areas of how news gets shared online. Plus, how one reporter’s prolific coverage of Trump earned her friends and enemies alike.

1. Daphne Keller [@daphnek], director of the Program on Platform Regulation at Stanford University's Cyber Policy Center, on how two new Supreme Court cases may reshape social media as we know it. Listen.

2. Lachlan Cartwright [@LachCartwright], editor at large at the Daily Beast, on the recent lawsuits plaguing Fox News, and how they reveal glimpses of a future news empire. Listen.

3. Maggie Haberman [@maggieNYT], senior political correspondent for the New York Times, on her extensive reporting on Donald Trump, and why it has inspired strong reactions in journalistic circles. Listen.

3. Dave Enrich [@davidenrich], the business investigations editor at The New York Times, on how Big Law attorneys can still fly under the media's radar. Listen.

Music:

Fallen Leaves by Marcos CiscarNight Thoughts by John ZornSolace by The StingMain Title by Randy NewmanBubble Wrap by Thomas NewmanNewsreel by Randy NewmanAccentuate the Positive by Syd Dale Orchestra

Transcript

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0:00.0

On this week's on the media, if I tweet something very slanderous about you, you can sue me,

0:05.2

but you can't sue Twitter. But what if my tweet is so hilarious and gets so many likes

0:09.9

that their algorithm puts it at the top of everyone's feed and shows it to everyone,

0:13.5

then could you sue Twitter? The Supreme Court has agreed to hear two cases that could change

0:17.6

the internet as we know it, by dismantling a law known as Section 230. In a world without 230,

0:23.6

we would see people who believe they've been defamed by a Me Too post, bringing lawsuits.

0:30.3

Plus, New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman had unmatched access to the Trump White House.

0:34.8

She became a lightning rod for critics. People use this word access as if it implies some kind of

0:39.6

a transaction. You know, we talk to people. That's what journalists do. You're talking to me right now.

0:44.7

And I'm sure that we people will criticize you for it. Plus, how big law became big business

0:50.9

all after this.

1:01.5

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm NPR Media correspondent David Fulkenflick,

1:06.9

sitting in for Brook Gladstone. This week, we learned that two cases are heading the Supreme

1:12.8

Court that have the potential to upend the way the internet works. It starts with 23-year-old

1:18.0

Noemi Gonzalez. She was one of 130 people who was killed in Paris during an ISIS terrorist attack

1:24.2

way back in 2015. The first is Google V Gonzalez. Her family is arguing in court that YouTube helped

1:31.3

to spread ISIS's violent message because its algorithms suggested extreme content to users

1:37.1

based on the previous videos that they had watched. The other one is Twitter V Tom Neh,

1:41.4

which claims that platforms are eating and abetting acts of terrorism by spreading ISIS content

1:46.8

online. And it's a big test of an old law section 230. That's the name of the quarter-century

1:53.5

old law that shields tech companies from liability for any content posted on their platforms.

1:58.4

In a nutshell, it says if I tweet something very slanderous about you, you can sue me,

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