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The Jim Hill Media Podcast Network

Snow Star, Season of the Force, and the Untold Story Behind the Star Wars Holiday Special (Ep. 104)

The Jim Hill Media Podcast Network

Jim Hill Media Podcast Network

Tv & Film, Society & Culture, Places & Travel

4.8 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Looking at Lucasfilm, Jim Hill and Brian Gaughan explore the wild intersections of Star Wars history, theme park updates, and forgotten Lucasfilm curiosities: A closer look at Disney’s abandoned 1979 sci-fi project “Snow Star,” a reimagined Snow White set in space. New budget details and storytelling ambitions behind The Mandalorian & Grogu film, debuting May 22, 2026—alongside a new Millennium Falcon: Smugglers Run ride film featuring Mando and Grogu. WonderCon 2025 preview: Panels every Star Wars fan should catch, from trivia parties to cosplay and behind-the-scenes insights on Skeleton Crew and Kenobi. A deep dive into Bruce Vilanch’s new memoir and how it unpacks the creation—and chaos—of the infamous Star Wars Holiday Special. From scrapped film concepts to theme park expansions and the bizarre TV moments Lucasfilm would rather forget, this episode is packed with Star Wars storytelling both new and nostalgic. Support Our Sponsor: Be Our Guest Vacations Planning your next Universal vacation? Be Our Guest Vacations is a Platinum-level Earmarked travel agency with concierge-level service to make every trip magical. Their team of expert agents plans vacations across the globe, from Disney and Universal to cruises and adventures, ensuring you have the best possible experience without the stress. Book Now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to looking at Lucasfilm with Brian Gahn, the podcast with a different perspective

0:05.2

on the world of Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and all of the other entities that George Lucas,

0:11.1

Kathleen Kennedy, Dave Filoni, and John Favreau, as well as the rest of the team of Lucasholm,

0:15.6

have dreamed up over the past 54 years.

0:19.9

Brian and I are recording this week's show on Thursday, March 20th, 2025,

0:26.2

which means we're just a week in change out from the start of WonderCon,

0:31.0

which, for lack of a better explanation, Brian, is what, Comic Con's little brother? Yeah, it started up in San Francisco.

0:41.4

So they had San Francisco and then they had San Diego. And then they, the Maconi Center went

0:49.5

under re-they were redoing it. And so it came down down for two it came down to anaheim for two

0:58.2

years it was just going to be down for two years and the funny thing the first year it was there

1:04.5

it was split one half was wonder con and the other half was the cheerleaders championships.

1:14.4

Oh.

1:15.2

So it was almost like the dingo ate my baby type of thing.

1:21.3

And the, but it was really cool because the girls from the cheerleading, they came over and they would have their lunch in front of the doors of the WonderCon just to see all the costumes and the people and this stuff like that.

1:38.0

And everybody got along fine.

1:39.8

You know, they were talking to people and taking pictures and the whole thing.

1:43.4

And that was the first year. and Bill did go to that one.

1:47.3

And then the second year was on Easter weekend.

1:52.4

So a lot of people would leave on Sunday.

1:56.9

So that was a disaster.

1:59.2

And then they kind of, then they decided to keep it down in Anaheim because Anaheim.

2:04.5

And then some weekends it was on Easter week and the others it wasn't.

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