SN 1011: Jailbreaking AI - Deepseek, "ROUTERS" Act, Zyxel Vulnerability

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Leo Laporte

Cyber Crime, Malware, Technology, Encryption, Steve Gibson, Security, Hacking, Twit, Spyware, Leo Laporte

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🗓️ 4 February 2025

⏱️ 182 minutes

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Summary

Why was DeepSeek banned by Italian authorities?
What internal proprietary DeepSeek data was found online?
What is "DeepSeek" anyway? Why do we care, and what does it mean?
Did Microsoft just make OpenAI's strong model available for free?
Google explains how generative AI can be and is being misused.
An actively exploited and unpatched Zyxel router vulnerability.
The new US "ROUTERS" Act.
Is pirate-site blocking legislation justified or is it censorship?
Russia's blocked website count tops 400,000.
Microsoft adds "scareware" warnings to Edge.
Bitwarden improves account security.
What's still my favorite disk imaging tool?
And let's take a close look into the extraction of proscribed knowledge from today's AI

Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1011-Notes.pdf

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0:00.0	It's time for security. Now, Steve Gibson is here. This is going to be a very interesting episode.
0:06.8	It's almost all AI all the time. Steve raises all sorts of interesting questions about AI,
0:14.4	talks about how jailbreaking AI is proceeding, and what the dangers of that are.
0:21.3	He also gives us a little insight to how he writes code.
0:24.5	That's kind of interesting.
0:25.6	That's coming up next on security now.
0:30.5	Podcasts you love.
0:32.3	From people you trust.
0:34.8	This is Twitter.
0:40.3	This is Twit. This is Security Now with Steve Gibson, episode 111, recorded Tuesday, February 4th, 2025.
0:49.5	Jailbreaking AI.
0:52.0	It's time for security now.
0:53.7	Let's show we cover your security, your privacy, your, everything else, anything that
0:59.7	Steve wants to talk about, basically.
1:01.0	Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, the man of the day, the hour, the minute, Steve Gibson
1:05.8	of GRC.com.
1:07.0	Hi, Steve.
1:07.5	It is, however, necessary to stay rather close to our title of the podcast when I've
1:16.3	wandered too far afield. I mean, people have enjoyed the various wanderings we have had.
1:21.7	But we should talk about security is what you're saying. Yeah. Well, and boy, today is going to be a goody plenty to talk about um well are you saying
1:32.1	there'll be no math today is that what you're saying yeah there'll be no math actually that's true
1:36.8	there'll be semantics because one of the things we have not talked about we touched on this maybe a year ago in the very, very early days of the emergence of conversational AI.
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