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Smologies #8: HAGFISH with Tim Winegard

Ologies with Alie Ward

Alie Ward

Comedy, Science, Society & Culture

4.923.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2021

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Who doesn't love a floppy, slime-filled, hot dog shaped creature of the deep sea? On this Smologies (It's like if Ologies were more Smol) we return to our conversation with Tim Winegard, a professional hagfishologist (YES IT'S A WORD) at Chapman University, and he dishes on the world's slimiest treasures. You're gonna learn about things like why you don't always need a spine and how special ketchup is and, of course, lots and lots about mucus. Also in case you didn't know, Smologies is indeed an abbreviated, de-filthed episode of Ologies for when you only have 20 minutes to learn something interesting about the thing your date said they're into in their profile you've got kids with you in the car who are definitely going to repeat the curse word they learned from their ol' GrandfatherWard all through fingerpainting class.

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0:00.0

Oh, hi. It's your uncle's army buddy who makes superb banana bread. Alley Ward, I am back with another episode of

0:08.1

Oligies, Smaller Gs, rather. What is Smaller Gs? If you're listening to this and you're like, is this a regular episode of Oligies?

0:14.9

It's not. We took full episodes of our regular Oligies podcast, not safe for kids, and we whittled them down,

0:22.0

and we shaped them up to make these pocket-sized classroom-friendly edits of some of your favorite past episodes.

0:27.8

So if you haven't listened to the original full-length episode of Hagfishology, and you don't mind the occasional

0:34.3

salacious detail and a lot of talk about mucus and swear words, go back, listen to that one, adults. That is in the

0:41.4

link in the show notes, but if you have only about 20 or so minutes and you need a G-rated version that's suitable for

0:47.1

all ages, you're in the right place, stick around. Okay, Hagfishology. I did not make that word out for this

0:53.6

episode. I swear. The term had been used before in 2013 as part of a biology graduate student seminar.

1:00.2

It was published. I found it and included a talk called Adventures in Hagfishology,

1:04.5

sulfate transport, and extra break-eal mechanisms of ion regulation in Pacific Catfish by Alex Clifford.

1:11.1

So I did not make it up. The term Hagfish itself, though, was first documented in 1611, and I wish it had a

1:17.7

better story, but it just had to do with its face. Hagfish. Plain and simple. So what is it, though? What

1:23.8

is a Hagfish? Okay, so it's an eel-shaped jawless slime factory of a marine fish whose skin

1:33.1

kind of fits like a loose sock. And Hagfish have been classified as vertebrates that appear to have

1:40.1

lost their spine. What? I know. Okay, but even that classification is not without a little controversy.

1:47.8

But did I mention the slime? Oh, the slime. And you're probably wondering why I spent a whole

1:53.6

episode on this grayish hot dog fish of the deep sea. And that is, that's a fair question. I get it.

2:01.0

Well, it's because I saw this news article in the Atlantic that profiled a traffic accident in

2:06.0

2017 where a truck transporting 7,500 pounds of Hagfish and their slime tipped over on an

2:14.6

Oregon highway and blanketed both cars and the highway with this road slick that few people

2:22.0

had ever experienced before. Hagfish slime ever since then has been front and center in my mind.

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