no wait why did you ask me if i read mike and the dragons why would i read it i mean

well just because if i refer to it i don't want to say like oh well you know the part that says

this and you're like no actually because i didn't first of, I can't believe that you actually could accuse me of former national news anchor

of not preparing for my interview because that's what it sounds like.

Don't worry.

I read the book last night to myself and took, look at these nice post-its that I took.

Oh, you look like, that's what my book's like what it looked like when I report a podcast. Maybe that can be your next product is Jocko Post-it

since you've really expanded your product line. You never know. I know. I thought that sounded

good. You gave me two photos of a young Jock Willink.

Describe a young Jocko Willink.

What was he like?

I would say at the young age photos that I sent you,

I was pretty, you know, pretty much an average kid.

You know, I was pretty much an average American kid.

I played the average American sports. You know, I played soccer. I played basketball. I, you know, I just kind of did

kind of normal things. But it was when I got a little bit older is where I got a little bit more

rebellious and that started to creep out a little bit. So in what way exactly? I was just rebellious, you know, rebellious and that started to creep out a little bit. So in what, in what way exactly?

I was just rebellious, you know, rebellious against my parents, rebellions against the school,

rebellious against, just against authority in general.

So does that mean running away?

Does that mean talking back to your parents?

Does that mean running with the wrong

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