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Small businesses pull back on hiring

Marketplace All-in-One

Marketplace

News, Business

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Small business owners’ economic moods remain mixed. But, as is so often the case, how folks feel is different from how they act. And hard data tells us small business owners are pulling back on hiring — one ADP report shows businesses with fewer than 50 employees cut a net 120,000 jobs in November. Should we be worried? Plus: Retailers benefit from buy now, pay later offerings, import prices sans fuel rose in September, and cap-and-trade carbon emissions programs have changed since their inception.


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0:00.0

In which we go looking for the canary in the economic coal mine.

0:06.0

From American public media, this is Marketplace.

0:16.0

In Los Angeles, I'm Kai Rizzdahl. It is Wednesday, today the third day of December. Good as always to have you along, everybody.

0:26.8

We are agreed, are we not, that the labor market is the whole deal right now, yes? Sure, inflation,

0:34.7

but people working in this economy are uneasy about their prospects. Companies are

0:39.6

adding fewer jobs, and the Federal Reserve, as you know, has made clear its heightened interest.

0:45.2

Also, and not for nothing, we're a couple of months behind on actually measuring the American

0:50.0

job market. So of necessity, as we have talked about, private data is playing a more important

0:55.4

role. To wit, the private payroll processing company ADP told us this morning that by its count,

1:01.7

this economy, net net, lost 32,000 jobs last month. For small businesses, though, that's companies

1:08.6

with less than 50 employees, They lost 120,000 jobs. What you ask might be warned from that? Marketplace's Sabree Benishore has the answer.

1:20.2

Anna Hammond is CEO of matriarch foods, which employs four people. They take surplus crops and byproducts and turn them into finished food like

1:28.9

pasta sauce and even meal kits for emergencies. I asked her, how is business? Things are okay, actually.

1:36.5

She's even considering adding more employees. Tariffs haven't been an issue for Matriarch. All of the

1:42.4

vegetables are U.S. grown.

1:46.4

Inflation? They've mostly dodged.

1:51.4

Because we work with byproducts and surplus, you know, our costs are less.

1:55.6

But Hammond can sense a change in buyers.

2:00.9

People be much, much, much more careful with the dollars that they're spending.

2:09.0

Still, for now, Hammond is optimistic, as are many small business owners, according to surveys by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

2:12.2

The small business economy is holding steady.

2:16.2

Tom Sullivan is Senior Vice President for Small Business Policy at the Chamber.

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