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Welcome to the Marriage Kids and Money podcast, everybody.

This is Andy Hill.

And today, we're talking about a slow path to financial independence and enjoying the journey

along the way. Now, as someone who started on the path to financial independence a few years ago,

I was both inspired and intimidated by the accomplishments of the folks

I've interviewed on this show. Some people have amassed a million dollars of investments in their 30s and 40s,

and they feel like superheroes to me. And knowing that I'm in my late 30s, those stories can also feel discouraging at times.

But is it really financial independence or nothing? Well, my guest today doesn't think so.

Jessica from the pioneers joins me today and we're going to discuss how we can all take a slower

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