Welcome to part two of our interview with Lex Lonehood Nova about dream states and nightmare land.

It almost seems sometimes it's like you're transported into the role of a movie.

And I'm not saying like I'm dreaming I'm in a movie, but it's just as an actor would be playing a character,

you're just suddenly this other character. And the film is rolling. You're not pretending

you're being filmed. It's just this is reality. This is this whole other track that you're on.

And sometimes it is your regular life that you're living. And sometimes it's a completely

different one.

And it's amazing how deep our minds can go with that and assign meaning to so many things

that in our waking life simply do not exist.

And all that being said, I mean, there is this aspect to dreams that strike me as this kind of illusory experience.

And that's why I think I got so interested in the idea of trying to wake up within the dream and still be in there with the lucid dreaming.

So it's almost like we're we're kind of drunk or out of it sometimes in the dream state where we're just, we're not, I mean, I think it

relates to what I was saying before about parts of the brain being turned off and that if you

can become keyed into the idea that you're aware that you're in a dream,

it's like part of your mind starts waking up and you can have this whole pallet of experiences

that you wouldn't be capable of having in a regular dream state. Although as I explore in the book, it can be very

frustrating to try to first achieve lucidity and then to maintain it, because a lot of times

what happens is that once you become aware that you're dreaming within the dream, then you just

wake up right

away. So that's kind of a frustration. Yeah, the clock seems to start ticking when you have

that realization of, oh, this is a dream. I've been able to lose a dream most of my life. I never really

knew the definition until, you know, years later.

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