Hey all, Joey here and you are listening to Under the Influence.

I love sleep. Like, I just love it so much. I really do. In fact, if I could have one superpower,

it would be to be able to fall asleep on command. Because the truth is, I am a total

crap sleeper. I can only sleep if I am laying flat on my stomach with my face smushed into a pillow

in my own bed. And this sucks. I mean, honestly, it really does because I am also a person who functions

when I get about nine hours of sleep. So it just feels unfair that falling asleep and staying

asleep is so incredibly hard for me. And I know that I'm not alone. My guest today is Lindsay Scola.

Lindsay is a writer, coach, and a former overachiever, although I think that she still

overachieves a little bit, who has spent most of her life believing that sleep is a sign

of weakness. And you can understand why, because in every profile we read of a CEO

ever, they talk about how little sleep they need or how they wake up at 5.30 and then they go,

go, go. I hate that for us. I do because I think that rest is such a necessity. It should not be considered self-care.

It should just be considered normal. And Lindsay agrees, now. But she didn't for a long time

until her body staged its own kind of rebellion. After years of hiding her extreme fatigue and shame-napping

in literal bathroom stalls, Lindsay was finally diagnosed with narcolepsy in her 30s. And that

diagnosis changed everything. It didn't just change how she lived, but it changed how she thought about rest.

And that is when she realized what we're going to talk about today, which is the fact that we've all been sold a lie.

We've been sold the lie that sleep is luxury, that it's a reward and then it's a bonus if we are lucky. And now, Lindsay, because

the truth is she is still an overachiever, is on a mission to help others unlearn those things.

She's got a newsletter called Rest Assured and a Sleep Course called Sleep is a power move,

and her goal is to teach people how to reclaim rest without shame.

We're going to talk about all of this today.

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