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🗓️ 22 August 2023
⏱️ 105 minutes
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New attention from historians and journalists is raising pointed questions about the founding period: was the American revolution waged to preserve slavery, and was the Constitution a pact with slavery or a landmark in the antislavery movement? We have long needed a history of the founding that fully includes Black Americans in the Revolutionary protests, the war, and the debates over slavery and freedom that followed. We now have that history in Pulitzer Prize–winning historian Edward J. Larson’s insightful synthesis of the founding. Throughout Larson’s brilliant history, it is the voices of Black Americans that prove the most convincing of all on the urgency of liberty.
Shermer and Larson discuss: Was America founded in 1619 or 1776? • What is/was an “American”? • Founding Fathers attitudes toward slavery • What was the justification of slavery? • constitutional convention and slavery compromises • U.S. Constitution and slavery • Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments • Atlantic slave trade • Fugitive Slave Act and Clause • Native Americans • monogenism vs. polygenism • slavery abolition • Quakers push for abolition • Three-fifths Compromise • The Dread Scott Decision and the Civil War • Abraham Lincoln and his rational argument for ending slavery • the future of race relations in America.
Edward J. Larson is the author of many acclaimed works in American history, including the Pulitzer Prize–winning history of the Scopes Trial, Summer for the Gods. He also authored Franklin and Washington: The Founding Partnership, The Return of George Washington 1783-1789, A Magnificent Catastrophe: The Tumultuous Election of 1800—America’s First Presidential Campaign, An Empire of Ice: Scott, Shackleton, and the Heroic Age of Antarctic Science, To the Edges of the Earth: 1909, the Race for the Three Poles, and the Climax of the Age of Exploration, and the textbook Evolution: The Remarkable History of a Scientific Theory. He is University Professor of History and Hugh and Hazel Darling Chair in Law at Pepperdine University.
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1:04.7 | appropriate as my guest today is Ed Larson, the author of many acclaimed works in |
1:11.6 | American history, |
1:13.2 | including the Pulitzer Prize winning history of the Scopes |
1:16.5 | Monkey Trial, Summer for the Gods. Still, I think in my opinion the best work on that trial. |
1:22.1 | He's also authored Franklin and Washington, the |
1:24.8 | founding partnership. The return of George Washington 1783 to 1789. I don't |
1:31.6 | know where he was in between there I guess he took a break a |
1:34.6 | magnificent catastrophe the tumultuous election of 1800 America's first |
1:38.8 | presidential campaign if you think 2016 and 2020 was, you should read about the election of 1800. |
1:45.5 | An Empire of Ice, Scott Shackleton in the heroic age of Antarctic science, |
1:50.9 | to the edges of the Earth, 1909, the race for the three poles in the climax of the age of exploration, |
1:57.0 | and the textbook Evolution, the remarkable history of a scientific theory. |
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