Slate Money | Money Talks: Money is One Hell of A Drug

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🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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In this Money Talks: Felix Salmon is joined by author James Frey to discuss his new novel, Next to Heaven, set among America’s ultra-ultra-rich, the real life billionaires he knows who inspired it, and why he thinks money is addicting. Want to hear that discussion and hear more Slate Money? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Slate Money show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/moneyplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Jessamine Molli and Cheyna Roth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:00.4	Heads up here before we get the show started. There are a few good nature expletives in this episode.
1:34.4	Yeah. Hello and welcome to money talks from Slate Money. I'm Felix Salmon of Axios and this is the show where we talk to the most interesting and insightful people that we can find about anything money related. And we have a very special guest this week, the one and only James Frey. Welcome, James.
1:43.0	Thank you for having me. James, introduce yourself. You have many, what are they called, arrows to your quiver.
1:49.1	I've done a lot of weird shit. I started out in Hollywood. I got my first movie made in 1996.
1:56.0	Which you starred in. No. David Schwimmer starred in it. It was called Kissing a Fool, released by Universal Pictures.
2:04.6	I worked in Hollywood for a few years, and I started writing books.
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